Shaman Radio Presents with Jon Rasmussen
Jon Rasmussen has over thirty years of experience as a trained and practicing Shaman with clients from all walks of life around the globe, and is an author of four books spanning Shamanism, Spirituality, Religion, Philosophy, Nature and Science. Jon has over 200 published videos and blog articles covering all these subjects including Artificial Intelligence, Aliens, Life, Relationship and Spirit Hacks. He has produced several web-based Apps and Websites bridging traditions and offering Life Coaching. The podcasts are created in part from the written material and videos of Jon Rasmussen as well as recorded interviews and discussions on a large range of pertinent and timely topics for personal growth, health and world affairs. Jon's main website is https://soulalgorithm.com .
Shaman Radio Presents with Jon Rasmussen
Shaman Jon Rasmussen Simply Explains Everything in a Nutshell … or Old Jon Simply Belongs in a Nutshell
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Jon Rasmussen presents a holistic worldview that merges shamanic wisdom with Christian theology to explain the origins and purpose of existence. He posits that a universal consciousness created a world of contrast and free will, where humans must temporarily forget their divine connection to truly experience life. According to the text, "evil" arose when beings chose to distort the rules of creation, leading to a "mad mind" marked by ego and separation. Rasmussen suggests that diverse paths, including indigenous traditions and modern faith, serve as tools to heal these ancestral soul wounds. Ultimately, he envisions humanity evolving toward a "Homo Luminous" state, defined by communion, love, and spiritual clarity.
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More information and videos about Jon's work can be found at https://www.youtube.com/@JonRasmussen and https://thesoulalgorithm.com/sessions .
Imagine being told that um your deepest moments of anxiety, your absolute worst arguments on the internet, and like the literal origins of the entire universe are all glitching off the exact same line of broken code.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's a lot to take in. We usually prefer to keep our existential answers neatly categorized, don't we?
SPEAKER_01Oh, absolutely. If you want to know about creation, you ask a theologian. If you want to understand the cosmos, you know, you listen to a quantum physicist.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Right. And for spiritual healing, maybe you seek out a shaman. It's always just one lens at a time.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Yeah, which makes sense because trying to look through all those lenses simultaneously usually just gives people a massive headache.
SPEAKER_00Definitely. The sheer volume of information and the contradictions, it's just overwhelming. Human beings naturally compartmentalize to make sense of the world.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell But today we are throwing compartmentalization entirely out the window. Welcome to the deep dive. We are unpacking a massive, just staggering synthesis for you today.
SPEAKER_00We really are.
SPEAKER_01We have our hands on an essay titled The Shaman's Summary of Creation and the Sacred Secret by John Rasmeeson. And the mission of this deep dive is to explore this author's grand unified theory.
SPEAKER_00And it is grand. It takes Catholic theology, ancient indigenous creation myths, uh Koro-Shamanic traditions, and then it intricately weaves all that together with modern UFO and non-human intelligence disclosure.
SPEAKER_01It's wild. It's an incredibly ambitious map of why we are here, what went fundamentally wrong with human consciousness, and you know, where this whole experiment is heading next.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but before we get into the architecture of this theory, we really need to set a firm baseline for you, the listener. Good point. What we are exploring today is purely the personal synthesis of one individual. It's based on his own life experiences, his spiritual studies, and religious beliefs.
SPEAKER_01Right. We aren't here to endorse this as absolute objective truth.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. We are just here to impartially unpack the logic of this unique worldview. We want to give you a clear, unbiased look at this intricate tapestry of ideas without, you know, telling you it's the only way to view the universe.
SPEAKER_01So let's jump right into the deep end. The foundation of this entire framework starts with what the author refers to as the great mystery.
SPEAKER_00Which is such a great term. Think of it as the ultimate unknown, the thing behind the thing, behind the thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And from this infinite void emerges a singular consciousness. You might call it source, you might call it God, but this consciousness makes a definitive choice, right? It decides it wants to create experiences.
SPEAKER_00It does. But here is the mechanical problem with an infinite, perfect singularity trying to have an experience. It lacks contrast.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's unpack this. Why does it need contrast?
SPEAKER_00Well, contrast is the engine of experience. I mean, if you are everything, everywhere, all at once, there is no narrative. There's no texture.
SPEAKER_01Right, it's just static perfection.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. To actually experience something, you have to create a theater of dualities. You need light to understand the concept of dark. You need the physical sensation of pleasure to actually comprehend pain. You need this full spectrum of balances to build both the physical and non-physical universe.
SPEAKER_01But wait, if this source is all-knowing and completely unified, how does it fracture itself into a universe of like trillions of individual beings having separate experiences? That sounds like a contradiction.
SPEAKER_00It does sound like one.
SPEAKER_01Why would perfection build a system that requires division just to function?
SPEAKER_00Well, that is the pivotal mechanism of this entire worldview. To make this theater of creation actually work without it just collapsing back into a singularity, this consciousness had to establish two non-negotiable rules.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what's the first one?
SPEAKER_00The first is absolute free will. Every being spawned in this creation must be allowed to freely choose what to experience, how to act, what to create, totally without any top-down interference.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00But the second rule, and this is the linchpin, is a built-in flaw called the secret, or basically the necessity of forgetting.
SPEAKER_01So act of ignorance as a cosmic law.
SPEAKER_00Precisely. The system demands that all these individual fragments, you, me, everyone listening, we must have it kept secret from us that we are actually the one consciousness.
SPEAKER_01Because if we knew Right.
SPEAKER_00If we all walked around with the undeniable constant awareness that we are entirely connected, the illusion of separation would shatter instantly.
SPEAKER_01And if that illusion shatters, the contrast disappears.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. The entire creation just collapses right back into the great mystery.
SPEAKER_01If you're listening to this and thinking, okay, this sounds a bit abstract, let's ground it. Think about playing a fully immersive, incredibly realistic virtual reality game.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a good analogy.
SPEAKER_01Right. You put the headset on and suddenly you are fighting dragons or you're exploring space. The game is thrilling. Yeah. But imagine if, like, every five seconds a loud voice in the headset reminded you hey, you are just a person sitting on a couch in your living room wearing a piece of plastic.
SPEAKER_00The stakes of the game would completely vanish.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. You wouldn't care if the dragon attacks. You wouldn't care if you find the treasure. To actually experience the simulation, you literally have to forget your base reality. You have to commit to the bit.
SPEAKER_00What's fascinating here is how that VR analogy maps perfectly onto how this framework views shamanic mastery.
SPEAKER_01Oh, right. The Cuero people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the text leans heavily on the traditions of the Cuero. For context, they are indigenous communities in the high Andes of Peru.
SPEAKER_01And they've maintained unbroken lineages of ancient Incan spiritual wisdom, right?
SPEAKER_00They have. And in their tradition, a shaman is someone who inherently peeks behind the curtain of the simulation. They see the underlying energy, they see the unity. They basically see the code running the game.
SPEAKER_01Which sounds enlightening, but practically, I mean, that must be a nightmare.
SPEAKER_00Oh, totally.
SPEAKER_01If you constantly see the code, how do you just sit down and eat breakfast like a normal person?
SPEAKER_00You've hit on the exact burden of the shaman. The author points out that keeping the secret from oneself is actually one of the most difficult and crucial parts of shamanic training.
SPEAKER_01It's because they just see too much.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Shamans have to actively work to re-engage with the illusion, to play the game alongside everyone else. Otherwise, they just can't function in the physical world.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so we have a system built on free will and a system built on actively forgetting our true nature. But surely designing a universe this way is incredibly vulnerable.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's a massive risk.
SPEAKER_01Right. The moment you give entities free will inside a simulation, some of those entities are going to try and hack it.
SPEAKER_00And that is the catalyst for the fall. At a certain point in cosmic history, beings inside this system, whether physical or non-physical, realized they had this free will and made a drastic, arrogant calculation.
SPEAKER_01What did they do?
SPEAKER_00They decided they didn't just want to play the game. They wanted to build a better game than the source. They gained knowledge of the secret and chose to stop keeping it from themselves.
SPEAKER_01They tried to jailbreak the headset.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. They tried to jailbreak the ultimate reality from the inside. And the consequence of that is a profound psychological fracture. Wow. Their minds started spinning, just struggling against the foundational parameters of creation. The Keroo teachers describe this specific state of spiritual corruption with a distinct phrase. They call it the mind is mad.
SPEAKER_01I want to pause here and connect this to our everyday reality because this isn't just, you know, ancient mythology.
SPEAKER_00No, not at all.
SPEAKER_01Think about the last time you found yourself completely consumed by toxic tribalism. Maybe you were doom scrolling or getting dragged into a vicious argument online.
SPEAKER_00We've all been there.
SPEAKER_01Right. And the sheer hostility and disconnection we see in the digital landscape today, it isn't just bad behavior. According to this framework, that hostility is a direct modern symptom of this exact mad mind.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's the physical manifestation of a fractured soul desperately trying to assert control.
SPEAKER_01It's a really intense way to look at it.
SPEAKER_00It is, but it's a crucial connection because it grounds the mythology. And speaking of mythology, this is where the framework starts overlaying global traditions.
SPEAKER_01Right. The essay brings in the Bible here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It takes this mad mind concept and maps it directly onto the biblical story of the fall of man, Adam and Eve tasting the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
SPEAKER_01Which, just for historical context, originated as an oral tradition in the Levant around 1200 BCE, right?
SPEAKER_00Yes. And it provides a sweeping historical context. That narrative spread across the Neo-Assyrian, Persian, and Roman empires, serving as the bedrock for the New Testament.
SPEAKER_01So the Garden of Eden is essentially the baseline.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. It represents the era when the secret was functioning properly and humanity was just experiencing the garden. Until, of course, they are tempted by a non-physical being.
SPEAKER_01A fallen angel.
SPEAKER_00Right. An entity who had already succumbed to the mad mind and was actively challenging the source's creation.
SPEAKER_01But we aren't just talking about the Middle East here. The framework zooms way out.
SPEAKER_00Way out.
SPEAKER_01We have to consider human presence dating back 300,000 years across sub-Saharan Africa, Australia, the Americas. And there are indigenous origin stories dating back 15,000 years that echo this exact same catastrophe.
SPEAKER_00It's amazing how consistent it is. Cultures worldwide describe a moment when things went sideways.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Some groups stayed dialed in with the original source, the OG, while others sided with the rebellious entities pushing this forbidden knowledge.
SPEAKER_01It's a global phenomenon of spiritual deviation.
SPEAKER_00But hold on, let me push back on this premise for a second.
SPEAKER_01Sure.
SPEAKER_00Is the assertion here that seeking knowledge itself is inherently evil? Are we saying that science, curiosity, and the desire to understand the universe are the literal roots of mental illness?
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell I can see why you'd ask that.
SPEAKER_00Because that feels incredibly regressive to me.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell It would be, if that were the argument. But there is a massive distinction being made here between learning the rules of a system and attempting to usurp the creator of the system.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Okay, clarify that.
SPEAKER_01The framework isn't anti-knowledge, it is diagnosing a specific strain of spiritual arrogance.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the arrogance of trying to play God.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Think about it mechanically. Learning the mechanics of a video game makes you a better player.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01But if you try to forcefully rewrite the foundational source code from inside the game using limited tools, you are going to corrupt your own avatar.
SPEAKER_00If we connect this to the bigger picture, the author views this fruit of knowledge scenario as the literal mechanical origin point for mental illness, demonic possession, guilt, shame, and massive ego aggrandizement. Wow. When you reject the great mystery and try to assert supreme control, you fracture your consciousness. You invite the mad mind in.
SPEAKER_01So humanity essentially corrupted its own operating system, and the physical symptoms of that corruption manifest as greed, violence, and a deep rejection of nature and the feminine. Exactly. That is a heavy, heavy diagnosis. So how do we actually fix a wound this deep? If humanity has a corrupted OS, how do we heal it?
SPEAKER_00Well, the healing starts with remembering the original purpose of the game. The goal of this life, according to the text, is to use your free will to experience communion and love without attempting to rewrite the fundamental rules of creation.
SPEAKER_01Give me a concrete example of what that means.
SPEAKER_00Let's look at a game like chess or the sport of football. The rules of football dictate the size of the field, the scoring, and the time limit. Within those parameters, you have infinite free will. You can run any play you want, you can strategize, you can move dynamically.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00But you cannot completely rewrite the rules of football while you are on the field without destroying the game itself. You can't just pick up the football, hop in a golf cart, drive into the parking lot, and demand that it counts as a touchdown.
SPEAKER_01Right. The structure is what gives the game its meaning. If there are no rules, there is no achievement.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And the evil influences, the entities operating with a mad mind, are constantly trying to convince humanity to upend the structure altogether.
SPEAKER_01So how do we counter that?
SPEAKER_00To counter a threat that pervasive, the framework argues for a massive, all hands-on deck approach to healing. It requires everything we have: modern medicine for the physical body, deep psychology for the mind, ancient shamanism for the energy field, and religion for the soul.
SPEAKER_01Religion in general or something specific.
SPEAKER_00Well, the author specifically points to his own adherence to Catholicism and the teachings of Jesus as a vital part of this toolkit. He acknowledges that religious institutions have human flaws, but he argues the core teachings address this deeply wounded dilemma head on.
SPEAKER_01But the goal of all this healing isn't just nostalgia, right? We aren't just trying to rewind the clock and move back into the Garden of Eden.
SPEAKER_00No, not at all.
SPEAKER_01The end goal is actually evolution. The framework points to a queero concept known as homo luminous.
SPEAKER_00Which maps perfectly onto what biblical texts call the glorified body, the state supposedly exemplified by Jesus after the resurrection.
SPEAKER_01This is a critical distinction. It's not about reverting to a primitive state of innocence.
SPEAKER_00Right. The concept of homo luminous suggests a fundamental transformation of our very nature. It is the next spoken step of creation.
SPEAKER_01A software update for humanity.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. A state where the body and consciousness are integrated, completely healed of the mad mind, and capable of operating at a higher frequency of communion.
SPEAKER_01Here's where it gets really interesting, though. Let's be fiercely practical for a second. Let's say this evolutionary step arrives tomorrow. Let's say humanity is presented with homo luminous.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Would we even have the capacity to recognize it? The essay poses this fascinating, almost terrifying scenario, and it brings in figures like Chris Bledsoe.
SPEAKER_00Oh, right. The UFO phenomena.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Now, if you aren't familiar, Chris Bledsoe is a highly publicized figure in modern UFO and contact phenomena who has consistently reported interacting with and filming intelligent orbs of light. Right. The framework asks: if Jesus returns, or if our next evolutionary step appears, not as a physical human being, but as an orb of light, a homoluminous form, will believers actually accept it? Or is human discernment so clouded by the mad mind that people will immediately panic and demonize it?
SPEAKER_00That question sits at the very center of the essay's tension. Recognizing profound spiritual evolution requires immense clarity.
SPEAKER_01Which we don't exactly have an abundance of.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Clarity is the one thing humanity severely lacks right now, precisely because we are drowning in noise. Which brings us to the modern complications. Oh boy. This worldview doesn't just stick to ancient theology, it tackles the current landscape of alien disclosure and non-human intelligence, NHI.
SPEAKER_01Which feels like a massive leap, honestly. How do we jump from Adam and Eve to UFUs?
SPEAKER_00I know, it seems like a leap until you apply the cosmic rules we established in the beginning. If the rule of free will applies to all of creation, then it applies universally.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_00Extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings are subject to the exact same laws as humans.
SPEAKER_01So the spectrum of good and evil applies to aliens, too.
SPEAKER_00Precisely. Just because a being is non-human or technologically advanced doesn't mean it is spiritually enlightened.
SPEAKER_01That's a really good point.
SPEAKER_00Some NHI are seemingly benevolent, operating in communion with source, and some are seemingly malevolent, suffering from their own version of the mad mind.
SPEAKER_01So the universe is basically teeming with diverse beings exercising their free will.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Which makes the modern spiritual landscape incredibly complicated to navigate.
SPEAKER_01And honestly, we don't even need aliens to complicate things. We do a spectacular job of that ourselves.
SPEAKER_00We really do.
SPEAKER_01Especially on the internet. To illustrate how hard it is to hold all these truths together, the text shares a deeply personal, intense story from the early 2000s, right when social media was gaining traction.
SPEAKER_00Oh, this story is wild.
SPEAKER_01It is. The author started sharing his syncretic practices online, you know, combining shamanism, Christianity, psychology, and the response was absolute vitriol from every conceivable side.
SPEAKER_00It is a profound, real-world example of the madm in action. The tribalism he faced is a perfect microcosm of human woundedness.
SPEAKER_01It's brutal. He describes being targeted by certain Native American groups online who accused him of being a white plastic shaman, essentially appropriating their culture. Right. And his response to this is staggering. He states that as a genuine shaman, he didn't know how else to repay the immense generational debts of his European ancestors. He couldn't just hand their land back to them.
SPEAKER_00So what did he do?
SPEAKER_01He literally offered them his life. He told them they could take his life as payment.
SPEAKER_00It's a radical act of humility that most people couldn't even fathom.
SPEAKER_01Truly.
SPEAKER_00And he notes that after offering his life, the attacks from those groups stopped. But the friendly fire didn't end there, did it?
SPEAKER_01Not at all. He was simultaneously attacked by conservative Christians who accused him of engaging in demonic sorcery and pagan rituals, completely misunderstanding the mechanics of his shamanic healing. Wow. And then, incredibly, he was violently attacked by pagan groups who felt he was way too openly Christian simply because he professed to be a servant of God and followed the teachings of Jesus.
SPEAKER_00He just became a lightning rod for everyone's unhealed trauma.
SPEAKER_01The tragic irony is just suffocating. You have a person actively trying to unify these disparate global systems, mapping out a grand theory of cosmic love, and he gets ripped apart by literally every single camp.
SPEAKER_00It proves the very point he is trying to make. Humans are deeply, fundamentally wounded. Nuance is terrifying to a fractured soul. When the mad mind is threatened by complexity, its default reaction is to retreat into a tribe and attack.
SPEAKER_01Which is why the conclusion of this framework is essentially a battle plan, right?
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. If the world is populated by malevolent non-physical entities, confusing UFO disclosures, and deeply angry people on social media, how do you practically navigate toward this homoluminous evolution?
SPEAKER_01What is the protocol for daily life?
SPEAKER_00The core protocol is radical humility and unconditional love. And I mean radical. The framework insists that even the most violent, nasty individuals on earth are ultimately just wounded souls in need of healing.
SPEAKER_01That's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00It is. But to explain how to handle this, the text uses a brilliant mechanical analogy regarding exorcists.
SPEAKER_01Okay, break that down for us.
SPEAKER_00When an exorcist is called to help someone who is possessed, the exorcist never attacks the physical person. They don't beat up the victim.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, that would be terrible.
SPEAKER_00Right. That would be completely missing the mechanism of what is happening. The exorcist directs all their intensity and spiritual authority at the influence, the non-physical entity or demon that is hijacking the person's free will.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00You have to aggressively separate the individual from the influence. You ruthlessly attack the influence, but you fiercely love the person.
SPEAKER_01That is a fascinating way to look at human conflict.
SPEAKER_00Isn't it? And the framework notes that this isn't just an ancient Catholic idea. The benevolent NHIs, the light sight aliens encountered in modern disclosures, seem to echo this exact universal message.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Be loving, withhold judgment, remain humble. Because all Homo sapiens share this history of trauma. The text points out that indigenous Europeans lived just like Indigenous Americans tens of thousands of years ago and suffered their own horrific traumas and conquests.
SPEAKER_01So everyone carries an ancestral wound that needs this exorcist level healing.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. We're all in this together.
SPEAKER_01So what does this all mean for us practically? I have to stop here because this sounds dangerously close to advocating for passive victimhood. Well, if the ultimate protocol is unconditional love, how do you handle an immediate physical threat? If someone is physically attacking you, you can't just stand there and send them positive energy while they harm you.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, and the framework is deeply pragmatic about that reality. It clearly distinguishes between spiritual defense and physical defense.
SPEAKER_01Okay, good.
SPEAKER_00The author states unequivocally that if someone is physically threatening his life or the life of someone nearby, he will use force to stop them. As it's phrased in the text, the body must be contained and the mind must be taught before the soul can actually be healed.
SPEAKER_01Ah, that makes sense. You cannot heal a soul if the body is allowed to inflict continuous violence.
SPEAKER_00Right. It all comes down to strict discernment. You have to correctly identify the threat. You don't use a physical weapon to solve a spiritual problem, and you don't use a spiritual tool to stop an immediate physical attack.
SPEAKER_01You use physical boundaries to contain physical violence.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. But you use spiritual discernment to combat the malevolent, non-physical influences trying to strip away free will. And the ultimate grace of this system is that it leaves the door open for universal communion.
SPEAKER_01Even for the bad guys.
SPEAKER_00Yes. The text suggests that even the fallen angels, the entities that initiated the madmind, might eventually have the opportunity to repent and return to the fold.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Let's take a breath and look at the sheer scale of the journey we've just taken.
SPEAKER_00It has been massive.
SPEAKER_01We started in the absolute void of the great mystery, analyzing how a unified consciousness had to forcefully forget its own divinity just so the theater of existence could have stakes. Right. We tracked how the introduction of free will led to the mad mind and the cosmic fall, drawing lines from ancient Levantine oral traditions to global indigenous histories.
SPEAKER_00We covered a lot of ground.
SPEAKER_01And then we explored a multidisciplinary battle plan for healing our corrupted operating systems to reach the evolutionary threshold of Homo Luminous, all while navigating the bizarre modern realities of UFO disclosure and vicious internet tribalism. It is a wildly intricate, unified theory of why we are here.
SPEAKER_00It really is. It ties so many disparate threads together.
SPEAKER_01But before we wrap up, exploring a map this complex raises one final important question for you to consider. Oh. This raises an important question. Right? If the secret demands that we must constantly forget our underlying unity so that the game of life can function, what do we make of those unexplainable human anomalies?
SPEAKER_00Like what?
SPEAKER_01What about moments of profound intuition? Or a flash of intense, inexplicable empathy for a total stranger? What about that sudden jarring sensation of deja vu?
SPEAKER_00Oh wow. Are you saying what I think you're saying?
SPEAKER_01Think about it mechanically. If the universe is a simulation requiring active forgetfulness, could those moments actually be temporary glitches in the system?
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's brilliant.
SPEAKER_01Are they little milliseconds where the game's code stutters, the veil drops, and you get a brief, unedited glimpse of the one consciousness? Just reminding you that we are all deeply connected right before the system corrects itself and you go back to playing the game.
SPEAKER_00That thought is absolutely going to keep me up at night, glitching through the veil.
SPEAKER_01If you've ever felt that glitch, you know exactly what we're talking about. Thank you for joining us on this incredibly expansive journey today. Keep questioning the rules of the game. Watch out for the glitches, and we will see you on the next deep dive.
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